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08 Nov 2006 16 Comments
by Tim Wayne
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Nov 07, 2006 @ 23:13:00
this is really really good news. it is not the answer to all problems but at least things are looking somewhat up.
Nov 08, 2006 @ 06:00:00
Without sound too negative… Pelosi as speaker will only serve to light a fire under the ultra-conservative base like there has never been seen. Pelosi as speaker pretty much guarantees far right control of the WH after the next election. The country is searching for moderation in the McCain/Bayh/Clinton/Giuliani/Lieberman mold.
Nov 08, 2006 @ 06:58:00
"Thank God" is exactly what I said when I saw the election results. And I disagree with Joey. I think the endless search for "moderation" is the Democrats' downfall. Stop watering down the message and give people a real choice again. If the country wanted McCain, he would have won a presidential nomination by now. Don't even get me started on Lieberman.
Nov 08, 2006 @ 07:30:00
leave luck to heaven
Nov 08, 2006 @ 07:33:00
[this is fantastic]
A Divine Unicorn
Nov 08, 2006 @ 07:36:00
Nov 08, 2006 @ 09:28:00
Fool's Name & Fool's Faces
Nov 08, 2006 @ 10:30:00
Boy I would love to see how the wingnuts on Fox News are reacting to this! However today feels like Christmas – Santorum & Pombo are out! Rummy steps down! Prop 85 & the South Dakota abortion ban both fail!
Nov 08, 2006 @ 10:55:00
Rocky – yeah, good news. But as for solving all the problems, well, there's no magic bullet—these are human beings we are talking about. And besides, my people are wary of final solutions. Joey – Don't fall for the wingnut spin about Pelosi being the Liberal Demon from the Netherworld. That's simply bullshit spin from Fox, et al., created to motivate their mouth-breather base to come to the polls. Pelosi is liberal but she is no Dennis Kucinich. She is pro-choice (like most of the country), believes in small government (like most of the country), believes in not spending money you don't have (like anyone who has ever balanced a checkbook), believes in saving the environment (find me a conservative who wants their kids inhaling coal particulates or mercury vapor), she believes in ethical government (again, like most of the country). She doesn't want to take anyone's guns away. Explain to me how she is too liberal ? She seems pretty damn middle of the road to me. Snufkin – Damn. I hadn't even heard about Pombo. That's the frosting on the cake. If you want to see conservatives flying apart at the seams, turning on each other, biting and scratching filled with recriminations, go check the comments from this Hugh Hewitt post about the election. It's some entertaining reading. Me, I'll be sitting over here getting drunk on schadenfreudenberry wine.
Nov 08, 2006 @ 11:17:00
Unfortunately, I don't think it matters what she really believes. Rather it is what the bastards at cnn/fox spin her as. The left wants her to appear far left – to stoke the base. The right wants her to appear far left – to stoke the base. She has been labeled a Liberal Demon(Fox) or a Liberal Godsend(CNN) for too long now. The folks I mentioned earlier are accepted and portrayed in the media as moderates. She will have a difficult time overcoming her Demon/Godsend tag. Just the opinion of a "watered down" moderate. ;)The purveyors of far right and far left media are salivating over the ad rates that they are going to get to charge over the next two years as they cover the mudslinging. The next two years of politicking is like a made for cable news soap opera.
Nov 08, 2006 @ 11:59:00
Joey: you are right about the spin—the wingnuts have been trying to turn her into Hilary-lite (and it's been pissing me off–fucking liars). But the nation just wasn't familiar enough with her to have an opinion so there was never significant traction with that tack. I'm interested to see how this fiesty grandma performs as Speaker. Actually, I'm optimistic. Last night was the first election since 1992 that I've felt good about. And it wasn't just good, it was double-plus good. 🙂 The media (news and talking head analysis of news) shapes public opinion to a large degree, but it's power to do so diminishes each day as news and political blogs proliferate and gain in popularity and readership. I'm one of the "angry bloggers" Wolf Blitzer was talking about last night (in reference to Ned Lamont's campaign). You know what an "angry blogger" is? An angry blogger is simply a citizen who is paying attention, gets their news from the Internet instead of the worthless crap they shovel on the teevee, and then talks about it online with other people. That's it. And our ranks are growing by leaps and bounds every day.
Nov 08, 2006 @ 12:14:00
Right On brotha! From a slightly right of center pissed off conservative agnostic.
Nov 08, 2006 @ 12:28:00
From a post on DailyKos which addresses the utterly worthless teevee media:Notice anything about the media's post-election coverage? The Republican battle cry echoed by the press prior to the election was that Democrats have no plan. That Democrats are short on ideas. That Democrats were basically passive mutes. That Democratic candidates were basically blank-eyed dolts that dutifully kept their mouths shut as the GOP imploded. In reporting on GOP talking points that "Democrats will raise your taxes," the press did not temper their parroting of these talking points with fact check (hey voters, remember, the President has the last word on taxes via his veto power). In reporting on outrageous ads, they failed to mention the lies contained therein, choosing instead to salivate on the shallow and gush over graphics.The Democrats' 100-hour-plan was barely a blip on the radar screen. Hours of so-called "analysis" was focused on what those subpoena-hungry liberals would do to "embarrass" the president. Republican talking point after Republican talking point was fed into the noise machine and irresponsible members of the Xerox media spat the distortions out without analysis. They did not balance lies with truth as a responsible press should have done; rather, they chose to air the Republican hysteria without rebuttal. Only now, after most races have been called and it's clear that the Democrats will take power, only now do they report on that which they had suppressed throughout the campaign. Now we get articles detailing the Democrat's tax plan. Now we get articles on the minimum wage and the effect of a Democratic house on industry. Now we get articles about how Democrats stand for a balanced budget. Now the talking heads report breathlessly on the 100 hour agenda, on how Democrats will affect the middle class, and how Democrats will try to fix healthcare.Now the press chooses to report on the Democrats' agenda. Now they're laying out the difference for voters, only after they've cast their ballots. Only now have members of the press suddenly seen the Democratic plan materialize before them like some Lady of Lourdes in all her glory. Only after the votes are counted do they report that Democrat control means that D.C. will be bathed in the light of change.But, as we know, throughout the campaign, the plan was always there. The ideas were always apparent. The difference between the parties was always crystal clear.The Democrats didn't win because of the press. They won in spite of it, in spite of a press that gave wall-to-wall coverage of Kerry's blunder and call-me ads, in spite of a press that chose feigned scandal over true substance. In the face of such a hostile media environment, the Democrats still won. And that, my friends, is a true miracle.
Nov 08, 2006 @ 12:48:00
no more final solutions please. the last time someone tried that a lot of my ancestors got rounded up and killed. so boo to final solutions.
Nov 08, 2006 @ 17:52:00
YAY! You must be beamin' Timmy! I am. I only with my state flushed out all the republicans. Some seats are still too close to be claimed.
Nov 09, 2006 @ 21:42:00
My sentiments exactly. Thank God!
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